All Narfed Up words (and some photography pre-2010) by Bryan Villarin

Good points. I just renewed, but I’m liking the way Flickr is managed less and less. People seem to treat it as a free stock photography site without any respect for copyright at all. Normally I’m rather meh about that issue when it comes to blogs and things of that nature, but it seems to be happening more often lately with large multinational corporations.

The community is what keeps me here, but if Flickr doesn’t introduce some better protections for it’s users, I may start looking elsewhere.

Posted by Marcus on 4 February 2009 @ 4pm

I’ve been a little disappointed with Flickr recently, too, but I’ll probably stay with them a while… or until they screw me somehow.

As for the copyright info, I think displaying it prominently would be a good idea. But, if you set up the permissions and copyright properly, a potential thief could still get your photo but they’d have to specifically work to steal it. They couldn’t “accidentally” download it claiming they didn’t see the copyright info. It’s not hard to do but you’d have to look to specifically circumvent the controls… not something anyone can prevent really. Displaying an image on a website means the browser has to download it. Trying to prevent theft is just a matter of obscuring how a user can access it to save it. An impossible task, really.

Posted by Shawn on 4 February 2009 @ 5pm

I stick with them for now. Not so much for Flickr itself, but for the community. I have made a lot of great contacts on there.

Plus, I fear change.

Posted by jerry deese on 4 February 2009 @ 7pm

It’s definitely about the community (It helped me meet people like you!) so I think they’ve got my $25/yr for a long time to come. I did stop uploading full resolution pix quite some time ago and started watermarking most of my shots a few months ago. It won’t completely prevent theft, and it makes viewing the photos a little less appealing, but if even professional photographers ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/mytripsmypics/) can get some use/exposure out of Flickr, I think it’s worth it, however I agree that Flickr should do more than they are doing right now.

Posted by Broderick on 4 February 2009 @ 9pm

Flickr will evolve.

Posted by Nick Humphries on 4 February 2009 @ 10pm

Thanks for the input, fellas. Don’t get me wrong – I love the Flickr community and friends! I want Flickr to improve.

It doesn’t look like the feeling is mutual, though.

The main issue for me is the lack of respect for its members, especially paying ones. I don’t understand why it’s so difficult to address us.

In terms of copyright, maybe I should be registering my photos with the U.S. Copyright Office. At least I’d have more fighting power. I’m like Broderick by uploading low-res, watermarked photos.

Like Shawn, I’ll probably stay until I’m personally affected.

Posted by Bryan Villarin on 5 February 2009 @ 9pm

As someone who both loves the community and GREAT photographic inspiration that flickr brings AND someone who uses Flickr as a “stock photography” site, let me say this…

Flickr is very clear about terms of use as far as linking back to the original Flickr page. They also have a great Creative Commons image search function which allows to view only CC images licensed for non-commercial. While I don’t view my site as commercial, I search non-commercial just to be sure I don’t step on anyone’s toes.

People who are going to steal are going to steal no matter where you go or what you do. If you make it harder for them, it will just make it harder for them, it will not prevent them from doing it.

I hope you don’t wander away from Flickr, but I hope they do make things easier in the future for everyone. Why not change who can download on the privacy page?
http://flickr.com/account/?donedownloads=1&tab=privacy

This also limits who can access “all sizes”.

Posted by Chris Marsden on 9 February 2009 @ 10am

@Chris: Thanks for your comments about Flickr. I actually renewed my Pro account yesterday.

Posted by Bryan Villarin on 9 February 2009 @ 11am

I’m with Chris — good points. That said, it would be good if Flickr would give photographers an option for a watermark to be automatically added to their photos at upload.

By the way, one tool you can use to see if your photos are being used without your permission is http://tineye.com — it is a reverse search by photo. They are still building their database, so not all pictures will produce results. As they grow, it will get better and better. I’ve used it several times with success, and it’s free.

Posted by Gardenwife on 12 April 2010 @ 6am